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Defense is useless?

 Alright so today. I thought i would see how much damage i would take from a normal attack with armour and without and found out that its identical.... Their is no difference besides stats.... Why even have defense if its not going to work?

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"Greenhorn"
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hmmm... Methinks you've uncovered sumkinda conspiracy. so the armor stat is worthless so far?


 

 

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"Adventurer"
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Little more info please.

 

What was your armour [stats, including elements,] what was the attack, what was the damage?

 

Also, how many attacks did you take? There is an attack range afterall so damage isn't constant.


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I agree with Akinokaze. Although, armor makes not that big of a difference, unless the difference in stats are great. Try fighting with armor and completely without. :)


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 All together i had 500+ Def..... and the most attacking me was around 7 levels less than me. medium armour... I took between 24-32 physical (NO-ELEMENT) damage with armour without armour i took 24-32 damage i'm serious its either my class is bugged with armour or this games armour ain't implemented. Of course without armour i have 333HP alot less than my 575HP. Anyway its still rather low for having over 500 def and all my resists are over 500. If 500 defence actually did like 1 less damage for every 100 defense it would be noticable... I can't even handle heroics with them even with them being 10 levels lower than me which is sad. Me and my Friend both tested it and he has barely noticeable defense and hes alot higher than me... 

 

@guolin  

Stats don't make too much.. i still have to spam heal i just have to start spamming earlier. After a few attacks my 575HP goes to 300.. Lol... which is like what 10-15 seconds... which is usually lost to lag or loading screens.

 

 

Also i would like to point out how DIFFICULT THIS GAME IS besides the incredible low defense like not getting new skills for 13 levels to help kill stronger monsters faster. I think that they need to lower the levels of certain skills like the bow attack for the druid goes up like what 5-7 damage? 13 levels and thats all i get? and 13 levels just to upgrade that skill too? Why can't they lower the levels for upgrading your skills then atleast that way we have some sort of skills that will help us kill faster to make it easier to hit that lvl 20 mark.

 

I love this game! BUT it really hard to get my friends to join when they quit because it gets so difficult they just quit. If they really want to see this game grow they should definitely fix this 

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"Greenhorn"
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Difficult?  What are you trying to do, and how, that you find it so hard?  I don't think I died even 5 times before level 20.


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Quote | Valsacar posted on 02.08.10 | 18:11

Difficult?  What are you trying to do, and how, that you find it so hard?  I don't think I died even 5 times before level 20.


 

Yah.. .Might i ask how much you played this? I have college i don't have time to master the skills i just want a game that can entertain me not one thats overly challenging, I want to relax when i play a mmorpg and get lost in the story,or game which RPG has always been about. I find myself always dying i've died 59 times not to mention between all those deaths about 200 close calls because of the lag and loading screens. Half of my deaths are the loading screens that pop up when you are attacking a monster, it happens way too much. I wouldn't mind the loading screens if i didn't die every 2 or 3...  It would be nice lower level monster do less damage then i could deal with the crappy defence since i can't complete half of my quests because the boss will kill me before i can get him below half way. Anyway OFFTOPIC

 

The defense is stupid why even put it in if it does so very little to none. Why not just have stats only and toss the whole defense out the door.

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"Greenhorn"
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 Evidence 

 

Screenshots People

img168.imageshack.us/img168/5130/screen1bn.jpg (Nude)

img237.imageshack.us/img237/898/screen2ub.jpg (Fully Armoured)

 

Using same monster... Lower level one...

 

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"Greenhorn"
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It's near impossible for people to tell the difference given the range of values.  I'd argue you're even further biased by your expectations.  If you wanted to write down every attack for the same mob, at the same level, and then average them, you have some real evidence.  If it weren't broken, the dps meter would be a better judge of what you think you're seeing.  

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"Greenhorn"
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I play a Druid, like yourself, and my armor's damage mitigation has always worked fine. Understand that at your level, armor rating does not play a major role (500 armor is only 5% damage mitigation). At your level, it's better to focus on your core class stats instead of placing so much emphasis on armor rating.

 

Also, monsters have variable attack damages, just like your weapons. Those two pictures alone are not enough evidence to prove that your armor is having no effect.

 

I do not view this game as difficult. Sure, I've met a couple challenges now and again, but nothing so hardcore as you describe. Methinks you need to reconsider your combat tactics.

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